Its a family evening in, nothing to do, so you decide to pop in a good Disney movie for you and the kids to enjoy. Just some good, wholesome cartoons to watch, you don't have to worry about the impression your kids are getting, right???
After seeing these videos on youtube, I am thinking otherwise. There are a lot of indisputable subliminal messages in these cartoons that are urging our children to have sex. Don't believe me??? I submit the evidence:
Lion King
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Xm1V-9xfjU&feature=related
Beauty and the Beast
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGnnaP5ePHs&NR=1
The Hunchback of Notre Dame
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GoWRtsGP-nA&feature=related
Pocahontas
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZDyL316x0E&feature=related
I was reluctant to believe this as well, but after seeing it pointed out so many times, you can't really deny it. Plus, if you think of the reason why they would do this, it makes perfect sense. Children are Disney's lifeblood. They are the driving force in going to see these movies at the theaters, buying the DVDs, and the toys and clothes and accessories for the bedroom etc. They get the children to have sex earlier, increases their chances to get pregnant sooner in life. More children over their lifespan, who in turn grow up and watch these movies and...the cycle continues, and grows exponentially.
Maybe I've been on youtube too long today, but this is something that's undeniable, IMO. What do you think? This has to be more than just a case of if you look long enough for something, you'll find it, don't you think?
[question posted by drknlvly6781]
responses and comments:
I take your point that Disney could be said to have a motive for encouraging reproduction but I'm sceptical. Has anyone else paused the actual DVD and seen this or is it just a youtube thing? If its real then, they've been rumbled and I have no doubt that people will be queueing up to sue Disney for their daughters pregnancies now!(even if the kid had never seen a Disney movie in her life) Great excuse! Blame anyone rather than take any responsibility themselves... that's it... the end of the Disney corporation - bankrupted by litigation. [Wizzywig]
Exactly!! It sounds like a very sad existence doesn't it? ..& quite disturbing! [Wizzywig]
i think you may be onto something here! [revdauphinee]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Otti-82jEAc&feature=related part 1 [RainSHiNe]
I'm sure that ANYTHING is 'responsible for teenage pregnancies' if you let it's message take the place of your answers to your children's life-questions. [mythman]
You know what? You were saying that to be funny, but it actually makes a lot of sense! [drknlvly6781]
I don't think those "subliminal messages" has anything to do with the increase in teen pregnancies or sex in society. I watched 1/2 of 3 of the clips you shared the links to, and I'm thinking they were looking way too much into it. I do remember hearing years ago, that the artists will purposely put things like that in the movies, just to see what they can get away with. It's more of a joke on their part, and nothing to do with sending subliminal messages to youth. That is an interesting theory you're sharing here though, I can't deny that. But I also don't believe it. [CanadaGal]
ok i think i put the wrong link here is the one about the influence of music http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Otti-82jEAc&feature=related alexjones.net he also talks about bohemian grove in Calif if anyone has ever heard of what goes on there. [RainSHiNe]
I have mixed feelings about this, on the one hand I want to say yes, maybe disney could be to blame. I mean, yes, some of those videos on youtube could have beeen tampered with. Now, from personal experice I have noticed the lion king one. Only after it was pointed out to me, that I finally saw it. Who does that thought? Sit around and sift through disney movies, in slow-motion. On the other hand, I believe teenage pregancies are influenced by lots of other things. For example, we view teenage pregancy as something god awful in our society because we like to kep our kids babies for as long as possible, we don't want them to grow up - but their bodies are doing something else entirely different. [LykeWhoaItsAmber]
It wasn't blaming Disney for teen or underage pregnancies,but I remember reading "Da Vinci Code"and how it mentioned symbolism and subliminal messaging in the animation of some movies,and how some of it was s3x based..but I haven't yet heard that watching animation movies has been responsible for any upsurge in teens getting busy either while watching them or afterwards! Animation Aphrodisiacs...it's tough taking that one in.. [ShepherdSpy]
I find this hilarious cause you could find some of those so called subliminal messages in any movie by looking really hard at anything and adding some highlighting. Which obviously that person who made those vids did :) [wallie]
Thank you! I thought I was the only one. I'm sure if I stared at my breakfast cereal long enough, I might see the word sex and penises in my cereal bowl. Someone was staring at their movie WAAAAAAAY too long. I never noticed any of this stuff and I think some of these were a big stretch. Basically, it seemed like the person who did the video was trying to find the word sex wherever he could. [phoenix25]
Ummmmmmmmmm, I don't think so really. The shots are way to subtle and fast and the age-group these movies are aimed at, are as it is short on attention on anything, be it studies be it movies! Their eyes are forever roving on everything and it would be kind of difficult to search out 'sex' and such words in the shots. There are other obtuse messages in other media that's catching our children's attention and pushing them towards sex earlier than they should. [sudiptacallingu]
I'm quite happy to admit that I haven't watched all the links you've put up here. I've just watched a few minutes of the Lion King one, and can't help but think that this a little ungrounded. In all honesty, you could make those smudges say whatever you wanted them to with a little photoshopping, or even just a different look at them. Subliminal messages are normally where something is flashed up quickly on the screen so only the subconscious registers it. In this case, the video is distorting the regular images to show what they want them to say. I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest that the only ones responsible for teenage pregnancies are the teenagers having unprotected sex, and perhaps their parents for not telling them it's a good idea to wear a condom. [randomosity_prevails]
No, I don't think so. There are lots of phallic shaped things in the world. We don't say the grocery store is encouraging underage sex because they sell bananas, do we? Even if one of the artists did put an image in as a joke (for which they would probably be fired), most kids (and adults) would probably never even pick up on it. Plus, a penis-shaped piece of coral in and of itself doesn't actually "encourage" anything, it just is. (Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar and all that). As for the "breed them young so we have more customers" theory, ... come on, really? Just because you have a child as a teenager doesn't mean the girl is going to be all "well, I have one now, might as well keep popping them out" and end up with more kids than if she had waited until she was 25 to start. PLus, she will have less education and job prospects, so will probalby have less money and can't afford all that Disney stuff for her kids anyway. So, Disney would really be shooting them selves in the foot. [theproperator]
This happens everytime some famous person dies & someone else takes over,,,Walt Disney was child orientated,he loved children & he started these childrens movies...He is no longer with us as you know & some of his heirs have taken over(the younger generation) so Disney is no longer run by the man with children in mind..It happens in every situation....Look at walmart ( its still a fairly good store ) however when Sam walton started & operated the store he was all for the customers,he had their interest t heart..Walmart is all together different now since his death...its also the generation we live in....they seem to think that sex should be a part of your life from birth,& do not try to spare the smaller children..Its sad but true... [slickcut]
I really think there's an over-reaction to the belief that Disney movies have sexually charged subliminal messsages. You can find those anywhere if you look hard enough. I found one in my breakfast once. Kids aren't looking for it, and even if they found it they wouldn't understand it. I guarantee it's not causing kids to have sex. Bad parenting and the lack of sex education are the top two causes for teenage pregnancy, in my opinion. Disney movies are just a scapegoat - much like video games, music, and other perceived "bad influences" by those who would rather lay the blame on anything but themselves. [Latrivia]
Good response, Latrivia. My thing is this. There was teenage pregnancy, rape, murder, and crazy people before there was even television or xbox or Disney movies. Women even got married when they were teenagers, so can we really blame he word sex in a Disney movie for teen pregnancy? [phoenix25]
i think thats a bit of a reach. the disney movies that were listed, are geared twards younger children not teenagers. People are too quick to try and find someone to blame, instead of taking responsibility for thier own mistakes. Do i think the message of the little mermaid is get laid under the sea? no i dont. You can find and make just about anything dirty if you try hard enough. My son enjoys disney movies and is almost 4 years old, am i worried about the movie cars telling him to go out and have sex.. no i am not because i know at this age he isnt thinking along those lines. I suggest instead of finding a way to blame mickey mouse, that maybe we look and see the parents of these teenage mothers and the teenage mothers themself and see what went wrong there. [SuziBerardini]
anything is a possability, and this is definately a scary one to consider. some of it does make sense though from what was shown, it's amazing on what they picked up on when they were actually looking for it, i never would have seen it. I find it hard to believe it would be done on purpose, but that again, on the same not, i really wouldn't be too surprised at a big corporation doing something like that in order to try and make more money [rbailey83]
I think it's nuts. I've seen the swirling sand on Lion King that supposedly spells out sex. Lack of parental control is to blame. My parents were strict on all of us growing up. We weren't allowed to sneeze without permission and if we did go out, we were expected to be home by X time and if we were going to be even 30 seconds late, we had to call. Parents today are too lenient with their kids and allow them to do whatever they want without thinking of the consequences. It's a shame really. [ColdSunshine]
I knew about the Lion King message. Tried it out myself on the VHS and yep, there it was. You can't mistake it for a trick of the eyes. [irishidid]
I noticed with watching his Lion King video he did not show the one I have seen. It can be seen clearly by advancing pause. The exact scene I couldn't tell you, but it is there. As for his others I think he was stretching is imagination a bit. [irishidid]
Good day.. I've heard this once and had seen the word sex in the cloud in one of their movie. The lion king if I'm not mistaken. Whether intentional or not, disney must be reprimanded since it showcase children's shows like cartoons and wholesome movies, I think they should be responsible in what they're making. [blackmantra_x]
Maybe that's the one I'm thinking about. You have to go through it slowly to see it, but it is very clear. [irishidid]
Well it COULD be true.. Yet I think it is a little far fetched. If I look hours at grass, then I too can find words in it :D Have a good day.. [NrgDfenZ]
lol oh god now thats some theory you have there...i watched a bit of the lion king one and i must say some of those were a bit totally looked for...i mean...i dont think a kid watching the movies would notice them....adults themselves cannot most times...still your theory is interesting really! lol people dont know what to do anymore to get money after all! [JoMarch]
I wouldn't say that Disney is actually responsible for teenage pregnancies, because it's rather impossible to find those subliminary messages in those videos in just a snap, and it could have been some random dude who really has like no life, and just decided to rip the Disney movie DVD, and take a screenshot of some random scenes and add some highlighting, or it can just be some coincidence. I have seen some artworks or some paintings in my life, and I actually did see some images (a man smiling, some words, etc). It could've been that. Whatever the case is, I don't think Disney is responsible for teenage pregnancies, because it's not like the Disney wants the kids to watch their movies and actually have sex or anything of that sort... d-_-b [animeniak]
drknlvly I think that people are going out of their way to find bad stuff as I watched all these and no I dont believe that the word sex was meant at all, these were just wavy lines and that is all. we americans can be had so easily and scared over stuff that is really urban legends.you tube is great for stirring up nonsense. Disney is not into such stupid stuff. [Hatley]
Young girls pregnancies have been happening since creation and I think that accusing a Television Station is wrong. How parents grow their children has a effect on the children. I grew up in a way that even now at 32 years old I still do the things that I was taught. Blaming he, she and the old lady is wrong. The bible says grow your children in the way he/she should grow. [kerriannc]
you know what. seeing the word sex will not make you have sex if you wouldn't otherwise. in most cases, the person that put that together is really scraping the barrel to find anything that could just possibly, look a tiny bit like it says sex. and the more obivious ones, I put down to bored animators wanting a laugh than manipulative disney bosses trying to get people to have sex by showing them the word sex. I suppose you think that sex education encourages sex too? I mean, what is wrong with the word sex. [Galena]
I think it could be possible but everyone can interpret things differently. I think that the responsible parent should watch as to what it is that their kids are watching. It is sad to think that now adays kids are having sex as young as 9 years of age. It is absolutely unthinkable if you ask me. It is bad enough that I have to worry about it now when my daughters are only 4 1/2 and 2 1/2 but I know I need to deal with it sooner rather than later. I am not going to be a parent who is in denial and i know that I want my kids to have some freedom, but to think that kids will just copy what is on tv or on movies is quite irresponsible of us parents....we have to make sure we are teaching our children the right way to live and make them realize that movies and tv is just that, make believe....it is not REAL [sanell]
Some of the scenes that had the word "sex" in them could not be seen too clearly, but a lot of them could be. I knew that Disney had quite a few sexual images in their films, but I did not know that they were that abundant. Of course, Disney is not the only one to point the finger at, if you watched a lot of animated shows and films in the 1980's and 1990's, a lot of them had an abundance of sexual references in them. This is nothing new. The thing is, those of you who are parents have to catch this stuff, and you have to talk to your children early about sex. There is so much sex in the media. Children are exposed to it every single day. People in general are exposed to it all of the time, so you really cannot shelter anyone from it. I think education is best for everyone when it comes to knowing the facts and myths about sex. Disney will not change their ways, so all that you can do is just educated your children about what they are seeing. [rogue13xmen13]
I don't agree...theres no sex in the movies...of course there is reference to babies...and kissing but no reference to the actual deed. watching Beauty and the beast or Pocahontas won't tell kids HOW babies are made and what sex is. I think this is a case of IF you are looking for something hard enough even if its not really there you'll find some obscure not even widely known reference to it. Look how Disney is so strict with contracts for public misbehavior drugs and sex and such for their actors and actresses... [saundyl]
Sex. Did I just tell you to go do it? I watched the Lion King video and some of those were just a long shot. I have to point out that even if children did see the word "sex", that doesn't mean that they understand what sex is, how it is done, or what it involves. This is one reason I don't understand why people keep magazines out of their house with the word "sex" on the cover. Negative connotations for words is something that adults do. Children haven't developed enough to understand it yet. This is one reason that children will sometimes do things or say things that they have seen other say and do because they do not yet understand that there are appropriate times and places to do things and that some things are not okay for children to do. Just seeing a word, however, would not really be a suggestion. So what, they know what sex is. That's how babies are made. Is it bad then? Would children really understand why it was if you tried to tell them it was bad? Probably not. Anyway, I watched Disney movies as a kid and The Little Mermaid was my favorite Disney movie. I NEVER noticed the "penis" on the cover and after I saw it, I didn't really care. If you look hard enough, you'll find sexual images and words all over the place. A lot of those incidents of sex written in The Lion King were blades of grass crossed to make an "x" and then stretching to find the "s" and "e" somewhere before it. On most of those, I couldn't see the word at all before they pointed it out. I'm sure you could find the word "sex" written in your front yard if you stared at your grass long enough. I think television shows that display frequent sexual confrontations and promiscuity are more to blame for teen pregnancy than these stretched by a long shot "subliminal" messages. [phoenix25]
They put "subiminal messages" in print advertisements as well as video commericals, music videos, music, etc. Are we going to sue everyone when we find a "subiinal message"? I don't know which law we would use to uphold our case. It seems like a very week case. It's interesting stuff BUT I think we can use our time better for something else, right friend? Take care! Pablo [callarse1]
I've seen most of those movies and, as I didn't pick up on any bad vibes while watching them, I think they are fine. People with a particular interest can dissect things looking for something to be concerned about. However, to me, I don't think that's justified. [DaddyOfTheRose]
Ok, started watching the Lion King link to get an idea of what you are talking about. Quite frankly, just because the video on UTube seems to show random elements of the background being such that they can be interpreted to spell s - e - x doesn't mean anything. First, we must assume the video is authentic.. and it would be easy enough to retouch images to provide 'evidence.' People make data fit their theory all the time. Second, you would have to analyze the background images of all these movies aggressively to see if you can fit other words into them by looking at the shape of clouds, flower petals, grass or the like to make any other word. ... The ability of this person to see the word he's looking for would, to me at least, imply the possibility of mental disorder. Schizophrenia can cause people to see patterns where none intentionally exists. He clearly displays an unusual fixation with finding these hidden messages and an ability to see them which I don't think I could match if I really and honestly tried to find them. [DaddyOfTheRose]
I think the problem is that you're looking at this the way an adult would- looking and tearing through every little piece of a story to find the "hidden" messages. I don't recall ever seeing any of those myself as a kid, and I don't ever recall any of my friends seeing those as a kid. It wasn't until we hit around 15 years of age that we learned about those little hidden messages that people are so worried about. I personally was always more interested in the story that was taking place. Not once did I finish watching a Disney movie and go "Hmm, hey, I feel like having sex now." lol But then again, that's just me and my friends. [stagewhisper]
Hello! Yes, I admit that Disney really displays many subliminar messages in their movies. Their movies are made for children, and perhaps this is why almost nobody notice those messages: you are not watching anything that you believe that is able to pass such messages. However, there they are. Messages everywhere, in Disney. But no, I do not think that they are responsible for the teenaging pregnancy. In my opinion, those messages have no influence at all in the teenager's sex life. It is not just because you read the word sex that you are going to get in bed with somebody. Respectfully, Munhozmib. [munhozmib]